[57north-discuss] Mailing list etiquette (was: BCS Site Visit: University of Aberdeen Data Centre)

[Rowan Evenstar]

On 7 Apr 2014 22:06, "Carl Anderson" <noodlemonkeh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If it is *only* for important announcements it should be restricted to
those who have the power to reply, which is why I suggested the reply to
field be changed to discuss list. This was poo-pooed and not implemented so
as per my previous email 'tough titties'. Not everyone will be enlightened
enough to have been briefed with your email etiquette guide/have a stick up
their ass guide.
> Thanks, Carl
>

Ooo there was an option to change the reply to the discuss list ? Well if
it's still possible then I pretty much think it needs done asap.

Expecting someone, anyone, to go 'oh look, an announce email, I must hit
reply then delete the announce email and put in the discuss email' is a use
case that seems pretty silly, tech audience or not. It might sound simple,
it may sound like a proper use of the internet that everyone should know,
but its not. I currently haven't paid any attention to what email it has
come through. And it would be nice for it not to be an issue.

There are people who wish to be tech savvy and get scared off because when
they try,  they get abuse off the tech savvy for not knowing such "simple"
things and end up going and hiding and not getting properly educated.

In my tech savvyness I remembered the etiquette of... ive forgot the
technical term.. but cutting and pasting my reply to not be at the top like
all my email clients do naturally.

But I must say the rant felt totally over the top, even tho the point was
just. And id like for people not to be scared away from the group because
of such things.  It's not a pleasant way to treat your members, directors
and other public. A simple reminder to the perpetrator may have sufficed,
or, as carl suggested a while back when he for sore the issue, an
alternative fix in place. Or next I can imagine a whacking great sign on
the website saying 'if you cant use the Internet properly then we don't
want you.'

> On 7 Apr 2014 21:55, "Iain R. Learmonth" <irl at fsfe.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 09:41:16PM +0100, Rowan Evenstar wrote:
>> > But I will go read etiquette as im not sure that everyone wants all the
>> > replies.  Although maybe it should go to both, so replies can go to
discuss
>> > (since I am interested in who else may turn up and want to simply hit
reply
>> > all)  but the initial still gets to announcement. Hence why im
replying to
>> > carl and then the discussion list... (I deleted other emails so im a
bit
>> > confused at the huge rant about people being unable to use the right
list).
>>
>> The problem was not the initial message, that is exactly the sort of
>> thing that should be going on the announcement list. A notification of
>> an upcoming event.
>>
>> The discussion that followed should have been on the -discuss list
>> however.
>>
>> If people wanted to not be subscribed to -discuss but still wanted to
>> see the replies, they can see the -discuss list via NNTP or via the
>> online web interfaces at:
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>>  * http://news.gmane.org/gmane.org.hackerspaces.57north
>>  * http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.org.hackerspaces.57north
>>  * http://lists.57north.co/pipermail/57north-discuss/
>>
>> The -announce list is intended to be _low volume_. That means no more
>> than one email a day, and no more than three a week, as a general rule
>> (although there will be busy times and less busy times).
>>
>> Iain.
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