[57north-discuss] Large Item Removal Warnings

[Andy Gaskell]

Hi :)

I'm kind of reluctant to wade in to discussions, but, it seems like it
is good that a spectrum of views are communicated about matters re our
shared space. So, some thoughts re all this...

Any effort to tidy up the place is great, generally, thank you.

While this process is well intentioned, I think leaving warning notes
on people's stuff is a bit heavy handed, including subjective
assessments that many might not agree with and some turns of phrase
that some might read as passive aggressive.

Personally, I like to see other people's projects, if the place is
spotless and uncluttered, this pleasure would be removed.  There is
lots to learn from other people's project journeys, that sort of cross
pollination and mutual inspiration.  The clock is an example of this,
it's a cool project and something I've been enjoying seeing take
shape, although it is quite large, it's not large in terms of
workspace used, personally, I'd prefer to see it in the space than
not.

We don't have so many members, we have quite a lot of space now, I
think that means it's ok to leave in-progress work out, to a degree.
If we had twice as many members, we'd probably have to revisit this.

I was at BeCycle a couple of weeks ago, although they are open every
Wednesday and Saturday, they make every last Saturday of the month a
cleaning and sorting day.  I think this might work well for us really.
Perhaps every 1st Tuesday we could set aside this way.  It'd be good
to do this on a Tuesday, generally, as more members are in, so there
is more opportunity to discus things face to face, which is quicker
and friendlier than leaving notes for each other.  Having a regular
day a month for this would allow us to coordinate efforts and will
probably mean the space improves over time, as an environment.  There
are, I think, many benefits of cleaning and sorting being a scheduled
communal space activity.

Using the hackspace branding is fine, but it does convey something as
coming communally from the space, which is not the case here.  I'm not
suggesting we need a branding committee, but perhaps if doing
something under the 57n brand it is maybe a good idea to casually
sound out one or two people first.  Just a v quick "Hmm... I was
thinking of doing X, with the 57n branding, does that sound ok?" on
IRC would do.

Just some thoughts really, hope some is useful.

Thanks

Andy




On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 12:58, Edward Watson <mail at edwilldesign.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019, 12:33 Iain R. Learmonth, <irl at fsfe.org> wrote
>>
>> On 05/03/2019 12:07, Edward Watson wrote:
>> > I vote that perhaps we kickstart a group tidy/sort this eve as per my
>>
>> There's no vote here. If you would like to kickstart a group tidy/sort
>> this evening then just do it, as I did with hoovering and trash removal
>> at the weekend. I will help you.
>
>
> Ah sure - a 'vote with your feet' thing then maybe. Doing it when others have assembled provides quick spare opinions which is a plus.
>
>> This will be a change for some people, and people resist change. This is
>> just human nature. It is going to upset people. It is a good thing for
>> the space though, a clean and tidy space will encourage projects.
>> Hopefully, a clean and tidy space will also encourage tidying away after
>> yourself and keeping the space clean and tidy.
>
>
> Possibly so but all the more reason it should be done with a tact that a majority will not find overbearing.
>
>> > Speaking as a member, I want a space that encourages projects,
>> > especially infrastructure/facility projects. This inevitably means some
>> > large projects will 'live out' until done/installed but sure we can all
>> > get better at leaving desk spaces clear for others.
>>
>> Speaking as a member, I too want a space that encourages projects. If
>> there are infrastructure/facility projects then by definition these are
>> for the benefit of all members of the space. Why not tell the members
>> about these projects?
>
>
> Wiki works well here and I for one want to use the projects bit more for my stuff. The wiki project area was fixed a while back but maybe people dont know this.
>
> Cheers,
> Nordin
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